First it’s funny that Hillary had a RED suit and Donald had a BLUE tie.
Conspiracy theory #1: I think they planned this… because it would be really awkward if they both wore blue or both wore red.
Hillary’s biggest misstep: Attacking Donald for talking about problems that the black community faces instead of praising the things that are good, which she then went on to do. That just seemed dumb to me. The whole idea is to solve problems, which was the question. You could say he identified the wrong problems, but you can’t just ignore problems and instead give compliments. I think she did it to try and get votes lol (that’s what they all do, except Donald… unfortunately).
Donalds biggest misstep: Doubling down on Hillary creating the vacuum that started ISIS. He actually quadrupled down on it (that means he brought it up twice, mathematicians and gamblers will know what’s up). The problem for him is she had a pretty good rebuttal: that Iraq wanted them out, as was agreed during the Bush Administration, so they did.
Donalds strongest play: Doubling down on being against going into Iraq before we went. I can’t believe I’m going to bat for him in this case but I’ve seen the fact checking on this. He was very skeptical of the invasion, that is a simple broad fact. His two pre-war quotes on it are a skeptical ‘I guess so…’ in Sept. 2002 and “I think the Iraqi situation is a problem. And I think the economy is a much bigger problem as far as the president is concerned” in 2003, both before the invasion, that’s important.
both these statements, in this case, represent a thoughtful person. take them in context of history especially. Both pre-war, both under bombardment from various viewpoints. The quote directly under fire that people are citing to say he was for it (I guess so..) was BEFORE any vote in congress was taken, and it’s clear he was still figuring it out for himself. In Culture, Politics, Journalism, this is called NUANCE. this bring me to a side-point…
Flip-flopping: There are two kinds of flip flopping, though in politics you get criticized for both no matter what. One is if you listen to the opposition with open heart and mind and then change your position. The other is if you change your talking points based on who you are talking to. Unfortunately, this is another point for Trump, as Hillary won’t release her Wallstreet speech transcripts which she was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to perform.
Ironically, Trump accused Hillary of the correct kind of flip flopping, as if it was a negative, in regard to some recent proposed trade agreements. The problem, for her, was that he was the one proposing the ideas the led her to flip flop in the first place.
But Back to Trump and the Iraq war. In 2004, in a new interview with Esquire, he was all out against it. This is one year after initial invasion. But he still led the charge, as opposition, under those circumstances.
Each side interprets skeptical as either for or against dependent on the narrative they are pushing. For me, skeptical means thoughtful, and thoughtful is better than for or against.
Imagine the inverse. What if someone was actually saying NEVER EVER right after 9/11. Donald Trump, in that particular case for whatever reason, was very thoughtful. Classic Nuance vs. Strawman.
Hillary’s strongest play: Unfortunately her stongest play was her rebuttal to Donald’s weakest play, which I’ve already covered. She had a few good jabs but he had decent rebuttals. Ultimately it’s down, as per this debate, to taxing the rich 35% or taxing them 15%. That’s a big one I might tackle that in another drunk essay.
Final thoughts: Donald had more eye contact and was the one who framed the arguments, he would often say ‘now i think we agree on this…’ He said it about seven times. Hillary said it zero times. and she never said, ‘Nuh uh! We don’t agree on that’ So in that sense, Donald won, as he was the Alpha person. He also had to work more in the realm of unpredictable improv where as Hillary was more allowed to stick to her prepared talking points, or unable to venture outside them. (If this point sounds controversial let me just say Donald goes improv often and it almost NEVER goes good.)
Conclusion: Donald won but they didn’t talk much about immigration and I think that will be a harder one for him to handle. That’s probably why I’m not voting for him, for example.
If I could give advice to Hillary: Lay off Russia, you are fear mongering in the exact same sense as Donald is with regards to the Middle East, plus America already did the red scare, cold war thing, so knock it off. Or.. should we hate them equally, Russian and the Middle East? Should we hate the Middle East more? It’s stupid. Focus on specifics with how lowering taxes for the middle class will create jobs. You weren’t grilled in that way and I wish you were. Does welfare create more jobs? It creates more government jobs I guess. prove me wrong (or right). Also, if possible beat Donald on the alpha stuff going forward, eye contact etc.
Advice to Donald: If she won’t release her speech transcripts to Wallstreet (it should be one word: Wallstreet, not Wall Street, i’m changing it now), and meanwhile we had a government Wallstreet bailout in 2009 that effectively rendered us not a capitalist country, while simultaneously incentivizing banks to keep doing what they do because they got off scott free. meanwhile we are probablly already in another bubble… These are the reasons I’m not voting for Hillary, that’s literally all it takes. Didn’t say I’m voting for Trump tho, that’s all I’m saying.